The Republic (Dover Thrift Editions: Philosophy)

Yes, this edition has a long intro, but that intro is an argument by argument exegesis (explanation) of Plato's Republic withextensive quotes and commentary that lay clear its virtues and its flaws as seen from a modern perspective.The Republic is Plato's ideal society, but mustn't an ideal society be based on Justice? So first before we can realize anideal society, we must achieve justice (or an understanding of it). This is where Plato starts.Socrates, acting as Plato's mouthpiece, asks, "What is Justice." Each guest answers starting with the host who gives theweakest but most obvious answer: Justice is doing good to your friends and evil to your enemies. Socrates examines and dismantels each argument as they are presented. What if the person you think is a friend is not your friend? What if you friend lends you a gun - he then goes crazy and asks for the gun back. The arguments get stronger in succession till Mr. T. proposes that "Might makes right." The tyrant makes justice synonymous with their interests: I am the state and your country right or wrong.On the question of whether justice = happiness: (from the commentary),Let a man do his duty first without asking whether he will be happy or not, happiness willbe the inseparable accident which attends him. 'Seek ye first the kingdom of god andand his righteousness, and all thes things shall be added unto you.'Is the just person happy on the rack? Well, maybe not.If you wish to pay for a version with a nice index, feel free, but one of the other reveiws provides the chapter index location numbers. Now I admit I've only read to location 600, but when i've tried to read the Republic on my own it wassomewhat perplexing. For those genuses who only need Einsten's equations to feret out the meaning of relativity the introis superfluous, but to those like me whose intellignece is 'Shockingly limited' I recommend this edition, and the price isright. BTW I paid $$ for a Philosophy 101 course where this book was all we read and professor's lectures were substantially what is in this intro.Mike the K

I teach the Republic to High School students and have been using the translation by Griffith (Cambridge) for many years. For reasons I don't recall, I have thought Jowett's translation unreliable and so have avoided it. On a lark, I decided to reread The Republic in Jowett's translation and found it fantastic. I am not qualified to judge its accuracy of translation, as I only know the smallest amount of Greek. But, even though I have read this marvelous dialog many times, I felt that I was understanding some of the content in ways I had not previously experienced. I will continue to teach from Griffith, as its scholarly reputation is solid, but I will not be shy of reading Jowett's version in the future - neither his version of The Republic or other of Plato's dialogs.

I always wondered if Plato’s Republic, reflecting Socrates’ reason, was the first book ever written in logic and rational thinking.The platonic way of conversation, the ancient dialogue between two, started during the ancient Greeks and entails building conclusions one after the other and one leading to the other in small logical and reasonable steps, and the second person just agrees because it is so logical and philosophically true to deny.“The Republic” logically identifies all aspects to build a strong good just educated person, government, and republic.4* For both the simplistic and logical way of writing, the philosophy of Plato’s cave, and the birth of the logical philosophy or the “philosophy of logic.”Dr. Amir GendySurgeon and Author of “BETTER” and “ The Future of Medicine and the Fate of Humanity”amirgendy.com

There are no lables for truth. However, the civilization we live in try to tell us that man's civilization is only 6 thousand yrs old & man 10 thousand. Da, not so! This is why they have gnosticism. Because how if man is only six thousand years old, do they have Solon Hermes, Pythagoras, Socraest, Plato, Aristoles, Hippocratics the physcian, just came out knowing all and more than the Doctors of the eary 20th centry. When it comes to Greek Myyhology shows the mistakes in history. After the Dark age know one knew how to read unless they where Royal bloodlines and yet not even, Constantine who was only the Emperor of the East of the Roman Empire and the west had fallen Burn the great library of Alexandria that was made to collect lost knowledge After the Myology of man & war of the Gods. It was a place that was a city of study we will never have such truth,! When Julis Ceaser burnd it and said how could one man conquer the world by 32 years and in the year 48 BC means that he must have at least been in his 50s which was old then. He said the only way to conquer the world was through igorence. Strip them of their knowledge and the truth of man. The 3rd Century Ad to push ignorence & muder those.Created by PtolemyI Soter who was a Macedonian General under Alexander THE GREAT! most Books were kept inPapyrus scrolls Unknowing how many books were taken out at a time 40,000 to 4000.000, at its height!Being burned down from the bloodlines that still rule the world today but mixed with the once Celts meaning the cent land. Name changed after general Germanius as lands to conquer! This burn threw the world into ignorence except the Romans & Hellenistic, = the Semetic taht went to the Creed of Nicien Council of Nicea 325 almost the same time as the Burning that lost all oneness of man. Constantine odered all priest of all belifes to rewrite the history of man, the book of Enoch was of part of Genesis, it spoke of man being very advanced and the war of man and the Gods. ????? Then they murdered all the advanced people and knowledge like Nikola Tesla had to be past down by word of mouth. I love Greek "Mythology, it should becalled lost facts. Pomei was a myth so was troy, now facts. thank the Greeks for holding this great knowledge, Egyptians are just like the rest even though Thoth who is Hermes tought them